probably not correct forum but...

[leertim]

I cant find anywhere else to post this...

Why is HopZones Statusbar incorrect?

I Play at Fantasygames.se and on HopZone it says it is barely online for 60+ % per day...

After asking the admin team (on FG) about this they showed me that the server hasnt been offline for over 95 hours (100% online time for 95 hours).

Restart was done yesterday for 3 minutes, not fun, but needed obvioussly.

Everytime i look at FG's webpage it says Server is online
Everytime i try to connect it is online (and i play a lot) :D

Please take your time to investigate this please
HopZone is good list with good ppl but this must be something wrong...:confused:

Take care
Leertim Van Feer

[hopzone]

Hello,
Thank you for your conern in this problem. Yes, he have some problems when it comes to uptime checkings. We are working on this and we hope it`ll be soon resolved.

[Kadar]

There is no way to have a 100% accurate uptime. To do this we would have to have access to the server and check the servers uptime ourselves. We do not want that responsibility. The first time the server had a problem, guess who would get the blame.

We check uptime in a somewhat similar way that you guys play on the server.
We simply ask if the port is open and operating.
If there is any routing problems between Hopzone and the server, it may appear as downtime. This is neither Hopzone's fault nor the server's fault. This is something that neither of us can control.

[leertim]

And still when i want to tell the visitors about this (given in hard words) you just delete the message without any indication what so ever, No PM to me about wrong forum, explanation, no nothing, just Delete my comment...

Here in forum you guys first admit there is a problem, then say it is not 100% accurate and i am still not allowed to comment this in "comment" section about the server to tell possibly future players about this.
- That the server does not have as much downtime as is shown in your statusbar.

Seriously guys - Is this personal or something?
I'm beginning to wonder... :confused:

Ps. 100% is as you say very hard to obtain - but the stats show as low as 63% uptime some days when in truth it is 100%. It is just to big difference not to mention...

Ps. 2 And once again my message have been deleted in the comment section...:eek:

[Kadar]

Why was it deleted?
It was against the rules.
I am not going to waste my time replying to every deleted message with the reason why it was deleted.
There is just not enough time in a day.

Yes we admitted there is a problem. But if you read it is not a problem that either Fantasygames or Hopzone can correct. It is a routing problem that belongs to a third party.

[leertim]

And this is why the server has been removed totally from your list?

Conclusion:
A player that comment on HopZone and ask questions can get that server excluded from the list.

The Admin team of that server has nothing to do with this line of questions or critisism (just little old me).

- How is that even possible...?

And please correct me with the information on how i broke the rules, i just read the rules and cannot find that info anywhere...

[leertim]

This is all i found - Under the Help Section:

************************************************** *******
Quote:

Why do you delete comments posted by me ?

Please note that comments posted in other language than English, containing bad words, or comments that are inadequate are deleted . We are checking everyday comments posted for all the server.

end quote
************************************************** *******
In wich way did my comment fit into any of these mentioned faults?

[SirLagsalot]

Honestly hopzone, if you can't provide an up time checker that works why provide one at all?
60% when compared to the actual stats of 95+ hours (this time) it's really been online is causing us to lose players which is the only reason why we listed our server on HopZone. And it's why HopZone was created...
Imho the best thing you can do until you're able to solve the problem is to remove the feature completely, or publish the code so people can put it locally on their own sites for a more accurate display of up time.

And deleting comments that's only stating that the feature isn't working in a satisfactory manner is plain dumb and has given both me and allot of other server owners a reason to almost dislike your organisation.
(Yes i have published this errand on other sites)
It seems you believe it's easier to cover up your faults instead of making a public apology for a malfunctioning feature.

[hopzone]

Honestly hopzone, if you can't provide an up time checker that works why provide one at all?In case you haven`t noticed we try to make a better list. Better than other lists that , in most cases, they don`t even care about cheaters and other problems a list have.

Imho the best thing you can do until you're able to solve the problem is to remove the feature completely, or publish the code so people can put it locally on their own sites for a more accurate display of up time.this will never help , many of them will cheat the uptimes . and we`re not going to disable it. We run uptimes for over 6 months and nobody made such big problem out of it.(yes, they`re not very accurate, but important thing is that THEY ARE) . It`s not our fault that there are routing problems between HZ server and some servers.

And deleting comments that's only stating that the feature isn't working in a satisfactory manner is plain dumb and has given both me and allot of other server owners a reason to almost dislike your organisation.Beeing disliked means that we exist ;)


It seems you believe it's easier to cover up your faults instead of making a public apology for a malfunctioning feature.We will never appology for the malfunction that is not generated by us and we don`t cover up our faults. If you would`ve been around for more than "1 forum post" you would`ve known better

[SirLagsalot]

In case you haven`t noticed we try to make a better list. Better than other lists that , in most cases, they don`t even care about cheaters and other problems a list have.

Well you have failed misserably with that online status thing.
Ohter than that i don't see what's "better than the others"

this will never help , many of them will cheat the uptimes . and we`re not going to disable it. We run uptimes for over 6 months and nobody made such big problem out of it.(yes, they`re not very accurate, but important thing is that THEY ARE) . It`s not our fault that there are routing problems between HZ server and some servers.

Not very accurate my ass.
It says my server has 40% downtime when it really has 0% downtime.

We will never appology for the malfunction that is not generated by us and we don`t cover up our faults. If you would`ve been around for more than "1 forum post" you would`ve known better

Uhm, I've been around allot longer than that, you as an admin should know that the post count has nothing to with how well a person is oriented in a specific topic.
And if you don't cover your faults then why are the comments that states that up-time checker is faulty deleted?

On top of that, you didn't answer leertim at all...

[leertim]

Wow, this thread just got agressive...

What SirLagsalot is writing is true, you didnt answer my earlier post here.

I dont care about the status check really but it is as SirLagsalot writes this can cost players and noboby want that. That was why i brought this up.

Then i was jumped by Kadar without any reason.

This community could to work like this:
A player writes a comment.
You disagree.
Delete the post and then send a PM to that player about why it has been deleted. And/or If it breaks the rules let me know so i dont do the same mistake twice... Common sense anyone?

But still i agree with Kadar on one thing; if it is trivial post like: Fu c k this server and stuff like that i wouldnt bother to answer either.

Also all of this could have been avoided by a simple message to me via PM, like the one posted second in this tread by "hopzone". Or at least something similar.

Me personally was ready to accept that answer and get on with my life (so to speak) But once again i get jumped by Kadar...
Sad...

[matol]

As a server admin i have to say they are right, if the script is not accurate it is a problem that you are responsible for it as it's hosted on your site and it is created by you. You could at least say that the script is not accurate and that the online stats may not be 100% correct.

[Kadar]

And this is why the server has been removed totally from your list?

Conclusion:
A player that comment on HopZone and ask questions can get that server excluded from the list.

The Admin team of that server has nothing to do with this line of questions or critisism (just little old me).

- How is that even possible...?

Servers go into the awaiting list when an edit is made to their listing.
We check what was changed, check if its online and approve.
SirLagsalot did an edit, that caused the server to go to the awaiting list
-> · Addded news (server previous state: 1) ==> May 08, 2007 02:31




And please correct me with the information on how i broke the rules, i just read the rules and cannot find that info anywhere...

Comment rules are here : http://forums.hopzone.net/showthread.php?t=143
Just the explanation of the Comments Area in the rules:

The comments area is an area for players to freely (within the rules) to express their opinion of the server.
Your opinion was of Hopzone uptime. And I replied that this forum was a more appropriate place to post it.

[Kadar]

Honestly hopzone, if you can't provide an up time checker that works why provide one at all?
Let me turn this on you.
Why are you running a game that not all features work?
And give me the liberty to answer.
Because it may not work perfect and its something our users want.


60% when compared to the actual stats of 95+ hours (this time) it's really been online is causing us to lose players which is the only reason why we listed our server on HopZone.
This has already been explained.
There are many routers between your server and ours. If one of those routers stops working, then there is a loss of communication.
These routers belong to neither you or hopzone.
If a router in London stops working and does not allow the packets between your server and ours, How is that our problem? How does that make our uptime graph at fault?
It doesn't. Its the nature of the internet.
So from your logic in the first quote, we can say that the internet does not work, so why use it. Disable it.


Imho the best thing you can do until you're able to solve the problem is to remove the feature completely, or publish the code so people can put it locally on their own sites for a more accurate display of up time.
We can't solve the problem. Its not our problem. See above.
The code is the same code that everyone uses and can be freely found on many sites that deal with the server software.


And deleting comments that's only stating that the feature isn't working in a satisfactory manner is plain dumb and has given both me and allot of other server owners a reason to almost dislike your organisation.
(Yes i have published this errand on other sites)
It seems you believe it's easier to cover up your faults instead of making a public apology for a malfunctioning feature.

Nothings being covered up.
Post was deleted. User posted again. I replied saying to post in the forum. Posts deleted. And we are here discussing this.

I'm sorry the internet does not work 100%
I'm sorry that there is a router between your server and ours that does not work, even though neither you or Hopzone have any control over that router.

You dislike our service? Your free to leave.

[Kadar]

Well you have failed misserably with that online status thing.
Ohter than that i don't see what's "better than the others"

Oh yes, we failed because the internet is not perfect.

Better? We try to give the players an up to date list of servers to play on. We don't leave inactive servers in our list.


Not very accurate my ass.
It says my server has 40% downtime when it really has 0% downtime.

http://l2.hopzone.net/uptime-graph.php?ser=61229
Does not look like a 40% downtime to me.

How hard is it to understand?
Your server uptime also reflects internet problems.
Not the uptime of the server itself.



And if you don't cover your faults then why are the comments that states that up-time checker is faulty deleted?

See my other post.

[Kadar]

Wow, this thread just got agressive...

What SirLagsalot is writing is true, you didnt answer my earlier post here.
I did.


Then i was jumped by Kadar without any reason.

Jumped?
Again...
You posted. I deleted. You posted again. I posted to say the forum was a more appropriate place for this discussion. Posts deleted and discussion has been continuing here.
How were you jumped?
How did I attack you?


This community could to work like this:
A player writes a comment.
You disagree.
Delete the post and then send a PM to that player about why it has been deleted. And/or If it breaks the rules let me know so i dont do the same mistake twice... Common sense anyone?
....

Also all of this could have been avoided by a simple message to me via PM, like the one posted second in this tread by "hopzone". Or at least something similar.

Me personally was ready to accept that answer and get on with my life (so to speak) But once again i get jumped by Kadar...
Sad...
There is not enough time in a day, nor a common sense reason to reply to every deleted post.
What does make sense is a message to me asking why was my post deleted if you honestly believe it should not have deleted.

[Kadar]

As a server admin i have to say they are right, if the script is not accurate it is a problem that you are responsible for it as it's hosted on your site and it is created by you. You could at least say that the script is not accurate and that the online stats may not be 100% correct.

We never did claim that it was 100% accurate.
Again, we are not responsible for third party routers in the path between Hopzone and the servers. If they are down, how is that our problem? There is nothing that we or the server owner can do to correct this.
Its the nature of the internet and is known world wide by anyone who uses the internet.

Think like this:

I am on a road driving to you.
You are on a road driving to me.
We drive along until we both come to a bridge that fell down.
I do not own the bridge.
You do not own that bridge.
You stand on the other side of the bridge yelling at me that it is my fault.
I yell to you, I don't own the bridge. Why is it my fault?
You yell, because you told me to use the map to drive to you and its not correct because the bridge is down.


Common sense tells you to complain to the bridge owner since he is the one in control of the bridge.

[Ahmed]

Hey see if you dont like the service they offer dont use it, go find yourself another more accurate, more reliable vote recording system. First off they work their butts off and come on people lets not forget that even though some people do this kind of thing, host servers, w/e they also have a life and have other things they have to do other than worry about such a problem. You might bring up the fact that they should not have it there if it doesnt work? Its been working like they said for atleast 6 months ( I think even more than that), how accurate has it been in my time using it? (which i've btw had my server listed here since C3 was out) About 98% accuracy. The other 2% were just recent and lets see what i sent them in hopzones msging system.

Me to Kadar (24-Apr-2007):


Hey Kadar,

I have 2 things to let you know about:

1. My servers have been online without a single restart the past 5 days lol.. there is no way its 96% 2 days in a row, there must be something wrong.

2. Alot of my players are voting, and their votes are not being registered only a few of them are getting through.


-Thanks Alot,
Ahmed {Kingdom of Kings Network Owner}



Reply from Kadar to Ahmed (25-Apr-2007):

1. Uptime is a simple check and is NOT 100% accurate.
The only way to make it more accurate is for every server to give us root access to their server. We do not want that responsibility.

2. Voting - I do not know all the "rules" to the vote system.
I do know...
Votes must be from your site.
Voting from a blank page will not work, needs a valid referer. Clients that remove or give a blank for referer will not work.



Reply from me to kadar (02-May-2007)

Well thank you for your response last time, but please explain to me why the server is up, and only thing that has changed is the DNS and that has been updated my players connect with a patch that uses a modded l2.ini and the l2.ini connects to the DNS which is routed to whatever IP i set up for it. Now the server is set to DNS here and at my server, my http://l2.kingdomofkings.com/status.php says my server is up, and everyone else other than hopzone says i'm online, and since bieng online, and donating money to advertise my server more populated and the only way that happens is if the server is on the first couple pages (thats why i donated this month and not the previous month, i donate when the advertisement would be noticable lol). and now that my server has a chance to make it to the first 2 pages and revive and recover what its been before its being punched outa the way by other servers due to my players not being able to vote, and do to all this bs down time i'm getting. This time its been completely Unrealiable in Downtime and everything. Pretty soon will i find my server removed for down time? cause its up now, the ports are right, and everything is right i'm sure of this ths to my players and my status page, but i'll never have ppl on my server while i'm down and cant vote when i am up and players are trien to vote like crazy. Dont think my info is accurate check the servers status page, OR download the patch and try connecting.


Reply Me to Kadar (kinda frustrated now) (03-May-2007)

Hey man, its happening again... what he hell is going on? why is my 100% uptime server appearing as offline now? and when i said people from my server try to vote i mean they go click the link that you guys give us to put on our sites for them to vote, they vote by going to http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=61734 and then they hit vote, and then it says thank you in black text, and they dont get the green text, and the number doesnt change. Are there area's in the world that you dont allow votes from? Also could you please explain to me why my server always appears offline when its online even now just like yesterday?

Thanks,
Ahmed {Kingdom of Kings Networks Owner}

P.S I know your busy, and i know i am being kinda rude, but please understand that as you work your ass off for hopzone, i also work my ass off for KoK and when something happens to Hopzone thats not in your hands i'm sure you would get angry, and so the same in my case, this is happening to my server so i'm just getting frustrated. I apoligize.


Reply Me to Kadar (Even more frustrated) (03-May-2007)

Hey man i dont know what to tell you, its like hozone is rigged or something? Does someone pay extra money to keep other servers outa their way? This is bull****, my players cant vote in their prime time (the time where most of them are online), and now my server is going to lag behind for another month, the money i donated was wasted, and its been down apparently for atleast 3 hours today, and what? 9 hours yesterday thats 12 hours my players cant vote, and they all appear to be at the same time when my server is at its greatest player population? Now please tell me how you normally deal with stuff like this? Damaging the reputaion of the server with down time, make the server unable to grow due to the players in-ability to vote, etc?


Reply from Kadar to me (03-May-2007)

Hi,
Sorry, I thought we had it fixed yesterday, and both Hop Hop and I failed to say anything. I'm sorry.
What we have found is a problem in DNS. When your server is offline, we have an address from Charter. When its online it resolves to Verizon. (You don't have bonding, do you?)
We are not sure why we are given the wrong IP that shows when you are offline.
Yesterday we did a simple /flush and it worked.
Today we changed our primary dns to 4.4.4.2, so I hope this solves it.
(possibility we had a poisoned dns server?)

If it does not work, message both me and hopzone. We both do want to figure this out.
Again, I am sorry we did not reply.


Reply from Me to Kadar (03-May-2007)

Well thank you so much for your reply, dont worry about it, as long as its all worken now i can explain to you when the issue comes in i think. When i do updates or anything which is going to be happenen these couple days I turn off the main servers which are using a Verizon connection. I have my servers all set up with a DNS so i can change the routing of the server whenever i want. Now, i have my DNS from dyndns.com, and when the server goes down for updates, i let all my players play on a temporary server. This temporary server is on a Charter connection. So all i do is I change the DNS that is logged at dyndns.com. After that my servers are all up on a temp server while updates are being worked on, also this is the time when the servers on hopzone dont appear to be online, (This is how i maintain 100% up time and available to play 100% of the time, which i would really appreicate a correction if possible in my up time). Now unless if you guys have it so it cache's the IP behind my DNS or something, there should be no problem. I personally would have never thought that you guys had it so it caches the IP's, and when the server stays down for more than a couple hours i get worried about my vote count and my down time lol. Also when i told you about my players not being able to vote, i didnt mean that they voted from some place that they were not allowed to, they vote just like any other person votes and just like its permitted by hopzones rules, and they still dont get vote counts and the vote counter doesnt go up. There are times in game where i tell my GMs to tell the players to vote, and tons of them do so when we ask them too, i dont know if for some reason you guys have a vote flood protection or something which makes it so that x votes / hour or /min or /sec or something? but if so please remove that if you can because its a horrible thing to have.

And thanks again for your responce.


Ahmed {Kingdom of Kings Network Admin}

And frankly ever since then my server has been fine terms of uptime. Kadar i know is busy, and i'd belive so is hop hop lol... so give them a break seriously dont gotta be negavite all the time criticing whats not so great even though they know about it, they're worken on it, and they will make sure its resolved.

So thats 1 problem I had that they solved for me pretty nicely even though i did get a bit frustrated when my players couldnt vote for a while ;).

Then second problem:


Me to Hopzone (06-May-2007)

Hey i was just wondering why i cant vote for my server?

I cant vote from this computer (my personal computer My IP: XX.1X8.X32.X7 [edited for my privateness]) or the server computer

IP: XX.8X.1X2.X9X [edited for my privateness ;)]

Cant vote at all from either one, so pretty much i cant vote at all? If there is a reason for that i'd like to know it.



Reply from Hopzone to me (07-May-2007):

Hello,
We are experiencing some problems regarding uptimes and voting. Although for the voting problem we have some filters that we cannot disclose to much information about them because we will make them unusefull.
We are working very hard to resolve those problems and make the whole vote/uptime process work smoother.
Thank you for your understanding !

Mihai
www.hopzone.net staff


(in my opinion also an understandable reply due to the fact that its true, any leak in the voting system hopzone uses can comprimise the systems legitimacy)
Problem 2 also almost solved (it seems to be better now than before (maybe cause i'm running less web apps at this time than i was before))

So in my opinion they are doing fine as they are now considering they do host over 430 Lineage 2 server listings nevermind the other types of server listings they have, how many servers added/removed per day, forum replies time, personal life, etc. Cause if you can find another listing site thats more accurate, organized, less full of junk, and faster in support than hopzone.net then you've probably got another voting site owned by hopzone lol.

[SirLagsalot]

Ah, so i mannaged to provoke an honest answer atlast.
(I know i'm not very patient)
Though i still say, if it aint working don't use it.
And 61% uptime on a day that it wasn't restarted at all IS registered on the graph as 39% downtime, i thought you'd be able to round that of to 40%...
Atleast put some kind of message next to the graph saying it's not accurate or something.

[Kadar]

Though i still say, if it aint working don't use it.
...
Atleast put some kind of message next to the graph saying it's not accurate or something.

No problem. I'll see what I can persuade Hopzone to do.

Like this?:

This uptime graph is dependent on internet traffic and do to its unreliability our graph may not give an accurate uptime. We suggest for you not to use the internet at all due to this unreliability.

;)

[leertim]

Yeah Kadar you post that text *lol*

[Ahmed]

omfg Kadar you'd be my hero if you did that! lol....

[SirLagsalot]

No problem. I'll see what I can persuade Hopzone to do.

Like this?:

This uptime graph is dependent on internet traffic and do to its unreliability our graph may not give an accurate uptime. We suggest for you not to use the internet at all due to this unreliability.

;)

Well seing as how your service requires my server to be online (which it allways is) in order for my few players to vote it is a problem that should be taken seriously.
Which i get from your previous comment is the last thing you do.
Your service has a glitch, and you blame routing instead of trying to make it work.

[Ahmed]

SirLagsAlot, aka Tobywan, do you know how the internet works? Cause if you did we wouldnt be having this discussion at all lmao my god, i thought i explained this on ragezone, and got an infarction from you for being right seriously grow up, i still remember who you are, you may or may not know who i am but seriously stop being a little annoyance to life. Can you do something instead of complain? Cause i've got something for ya ;).... Go make something like hopzone, and get a status checker to work 100%, and i mean 100% no errors, or even come up with a script and send it to hopzone i'm sure they wouldnt mind a little help see'en as you "seem" to know everything about how status checkers work lol... or even a better idea go on google and find a single status checker that is 100% accurate no matter what. If you can do any of what i said then your right and everyone else is wrong, otherwise drop it. (o btw please dont give me an infarction here too on hopzone :S, O what was that? you cant? o poor kid.)

[SirLagsalot]

SirLagsAlot, aka Tobywan, do you know how the internet works? Cause if you did we wouldnt be having this discussion at all lmao my god, i thought i explained this on ragezone, and got an infarction from you for being right seriously grow up, i still remember who you are, you may or may not know who i am but seriously stop being a little annoyance to life. Can you do something instead of complain? Cause i've got something for ya ;).... Go make something like hopzone, and get a status checker to work 100%, and i mean 100% no errors, or even come up with a script and send it to hopzone i'm sure they wouldnt mind a little help see'en as you "seem" to know everything about how status checkers work lol... or even a better idea go on google and find a single status checker that is 100% accurate no matter what. If you can do any of what i said then your right and everyone else is wrong, otherwise drop it. (o btw please dont give me an infarction here too on hopzone :S, O what was that? you cant? o poor kid.)

Sorry, but i don't have time to discuss your childish behavior.

[Kadar]

Well seing as how your service requires my server to be online (which it allways is) in order for my few players to vote it is a problem that should be taken seriously.
Which i get from your previous comment is the last thing you do.

I was serious up and to the point you wanted me to put a disclaimer on the uptime graph.


Your service has a glitch, and you blame routing instead of trying to make it work.

Our script is working properly. It sends out the packets and waits for an answer from your server.

I still fail to comprehend how it is our problem that your server is either not receiving the packet or that its not answering back. When we are definitely sending it and the majority of the other servers do answer.

Yes, I do blame routing. Because if its not routing, then I have to blame your firewall. And since its not 100% downtime, which usually points to a firewall problem, I have to blame the routing.

******
Now on this: :(
http://forum.ragezone.com/f321/off-topic-kadars-management-hopzone-251735
[Off topic]Kadar's management of HopZone

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Lately HopZone has been having problems with their online checker for L2J servers.
I'm one of them who has been suffering from that problem, in their checker it says my server hasn't been online for more that 60% on some days.
However the server itself has not been restarted for many days and I've NEVER gotten any complaints about downtime from my players.

One of my players confronted Kadar about the subject and this is what he had to say about it:

probably not correct forum but... - HopZone.Net Gaming Forums

It's obvious that Kadar can't take responsibility for his actions, he's deleted several comments from my players just for stating that their online checker is inaccurate and needs to fixed.
After all, it's easier to cover it all up instead of apologizing i guess.


Despite the fact that he and his fellow admins are providing the most-cheated-on-vote-site-ever with misleading up-time graphs and a bad attitude that generally tends to piss people off.



If you want to take this elsewhere, thats fine and dandy.
But to outright lie, mislead the public about the circumstances, defame both me and Hopzone, failing to correct or update any statements you have made, then, you just blew any creditability that you had.

"Despite the fact" implies that you hate these facts.
To hate these facts implies some proof that these facts exist.
Without proof these facts are libel.
Being a moderator and making these statements as a moderator is not a very wise thing to do. When you post, (with that fancy green name) you are posting as his agent or "employee". Your actions can lead to you and the site you moderate in a legal dilemma. Especially when you are posting statements with malicious intent.
Ooops, there goes your creditability again. :(
(What good is a forum moderator that has lost his creditability? Or a server admin for that case?)

most-cheated-on-vote-site-ever ?
This would require that you first amass data from many other cheat vote sites. Have studied all that data. Then reached a logical conclusion. I seriously doubt anyone has given you any data and that this is just BS.

misleading up-time graphs ?
I still fail to understand your logic. Because you have a problem, its our fault.
Next your going to tell me that you got in a car accident today and I am at fault.
By any chance, do you work for the government? They like to do this kind of thing. Redirect blame.

a bad attitude that generally tends to piss people off ?
Let me give you a little secret of life. When you deal with people and treat them in a hostile, aggressive or disrespectful manner, what do you expect? For them to kiss your ass?
Just like this:
Get a grip kiddo, preferably before you say something stupid that will get you infracted.

Someone makes a comment that you don't like and this is how you react? Now thats what I would call a "bad attitude that generally tends to piss people off".
I don't even sink that low.

I'm done with you and your "problem". I'm changing your listing moderator to hopzone and he can do as he wishes with your server.